Revenge? (OOC)

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Aug 15, 2025 5:27 pm
Delirium says:
Sorry, it was a poor choice of words. I should have used 'tempt', rather than 'seduce'. When Pers first revealed her nature to Emma, she told her that's what her job entails; convincing people to sign away their souls, in the same way she was convinced
Yes, and Persephone immediately and unequivocally lamented/bemoaned that situation, expressed a strong urge to escape it, and even asked for help doing so. I don't want to spend the time tracking down the posts as proof, but, again, I think you are responding to things Emma would not know. The only times Emma and Persephone discussed Persephone's contract situation, it was all about Persephone wanting to get out of it!!

I also find it strange that Emma seems perfectly comfortable consorting with vampires -- including "not nice" ones -- but finds Persephone so morally repugnant. Emma seemed incredibly empathetic toward Chablis, but seems incredibly cold toward Persephone. I don't get it.
Aug 15, 2025 5:48 pm
Ok. I think I can see your point; Pers did want out of her contract. And Emma was willing to help her, prompto. There wasn't any talk about Pers continuing her work for her patron, so Maybe I am letting OOC info taint Emma's perception.

Taking a step back I think it is more likely that I did.

As for Chablis; yes, Emma was willing to help her, just like she was willing to help Pers, and Sarah, because she felt sorry for all three. That help never extended to any/all vampires, however. Emma wants to track down Eliot not because she is empathic towards him, but because he could reign in the other vampires.
Aug 15, 2025 10:18 pm
I think this discussion is mostly resolved?

  • Persephone wants to get out of her contract and does not want to do this to people, especially not Viv.
  • Persephone currently has no way to get out, and has to do the Job.
  • Persephone believes she can get out of the contract... so she is not dooming others to eternity, they can get out as well, if they want to.
  • Emma does not approve.
    • Many do not approve of Emma's choices, either.
  • Emma does not know all the details.
  • Emma does know that Persephone wants out. So we have a way forward.
  • We don't need to be friends, so long as we can work together.
Aug 15, 2025 10:19 pm
Delirium says:
... This is why I suggested I was the one who might need to make the change, rather than you.
If you want to change your character, we can talk about it. It might be a bit too disruptive to the game at this fragile stage, though, and I worry it will bring its own set of similar difficulties.

Did you have thoughts about what you might choose?
Did you have thoughts about what happens to Emma, I am afraid she will end up 'returning as a Threat' if she does not have a player to guide her out of her self-destructive spiral.

I think we are coming to the end. The faerie problem is coming to a head and we will need to 'deal with it' and then may take a break ('end of season' or 'end of show'). And Emma is a big part of that (everyone wants a part of The Aware).
Aug 15, 2025 10:24 pm
@Drgwen: Let's find a way to get Persephone some traction on her quest to get free.

Getting hold of your Contract might be hard to play with, once you have it you might end up stuck in the legalese of the reams of paper, looking for a loophole. Do we want to go that route? I don't know what is in your Contract, shaping and defining the Dark Patron is up to the player, so I can not give it to you, but if you think you can make having it fun we can have you find it, no problem.

Another option is for a third party to offer you an out? If you want 'salvation' and are seriously thinking about transitioning to The Angel, then that could be 'divine intervention'; else it could be some other power wanting you for their own ends.

Another option could be to show that you are actually 'working towards the greater good'? I figured your Dark Patron was likely against the invasion of the Faeries? This could put you on the same side as the others. We can link Viv to that cause (her purpose is clearly not the same as yours, she could not do your Job).

Another, though related, option could see us aligning your Dark Patron with the Faeries, so your 'get out' help comes from someone working against them both?

Yet another option might be us aligning with the Faeries (who says they 'the bad guys'?) and working to bring them into the world? This could break your Dark Patron's hold?

This is mainly about Persephone and her Contract, but @oopsylon and @Delirium should weigh in on the 'Faeries' direction.
Aug 15, 2025 11:03 pm
OK I want to move forward with things that are true to the characters we've established, without any of us having to twist or change our visions. I want to honor what has occurred in the fiction. And I don't want to "cheap" out just to avoid a stumbling block. So I have two ideas: she goes Angel, or she goes Imp.

So here's my first idea. Persephone gets committed to a psych ward today. Inside, she meets someone, someone who claims to talk to God. They are insane, but... well, they know things. Things they shouldn't, or can't. They look at Persephone and immediately know about their demonic taint, for example. This person provides Persephone some dirt on Wentworth and her Patron that she can use as leverage; she can use it to alter the Jobs enough to make them minimally morally acceptable. Indeed, she might even be able to steer her Patron's interests toward helping them with the faerie issue! At the end of this arc, perhaps Persephone is able to buy off her debt somehow, and she switches to the Angel playbook. Perhaps the person in the ward with her was an Angel too.

Second idea. They commit her, but Wentworth intervenes discretely; her American healthy insurance company is insisting she be "independently evaluated". There is a mix up in transit and she "escapes." Inadvertently she learns that Wentworth is planning a coup. She agrees to keep his secret and help him, in exchange, eventually, for her freedom. At the end, she retains her demonic nature, but she is her own boss, so to speak! She switches to the Imp playbook.

Thoughts?

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