Revenge? (OOC)

If I'm not too late, Emma would have come to visit Pers at the hospital too, but likely only after she saw Titanias first. Whether or not she helps though would depends whether Pers would be willing to stop doing contracts for her patron...

I have a problem.

For Emma, seducing people into selling their souls and condemning them to eternal torment is inexcusable, pure, unquestionable evil. It's not 'enforcing the patron's will on his minions', or 'tracking down rouge demons' - where the Tainted (and his friends) could keep on lying to themselves that what they are doing isn't capital 'E' Evil. This is the most 'in your face' I can think of.

Emma can accept that such evil exists in the world, and she may even be forced to interact with it at times, but asking her to help it, indulge it, or be friends with it would bend her character to the point where she would no longer be "Emma."

Yes, Emma made some questionable choices, but she still sees herself as a fundamentally good person. Helping someone she perceives as the moral equivalent of Hannibal Lecter escape so they can keep doing harm is simply asking too much if far her. As horrible is it sounds, leaving an unrepentant Pers locked up in a Psych ward might be the thing that harms the least amount of people....

@Drgwen, I understand you wanted Pers and Emma to be friends, but as things stand, I can’t see that happening. Emma could work with Pers if necessary, but not as a friend, not unless Pers commits to changing her ways.

I honestly don’t see an easy solution here, because "ignorance" is no longer possible now that Pers has openly revealed what she does for her patron. I’m not saying Pers has to change, but we can’t expect Emma to enable her either.

I also admit the problem lies with the way I created Emma. I might need to consider playing a different character altogether, someone either more morally compromised or simply indifferent to these kinds of issues.

Was that evil of her though? She took a total strangers into her tiny home. She clothed and fed her. She risked her own life to make sure no one was hunting her. She gave her time to get her act together and at least STARt looking for a new place/job, and even offered to help. And then she found said woman cozying up with her husband in bed (her perception perhaps, but she wouldn't have thrown her out if Sarah could have kept 'some' distance from David). So I would say she has gone above and beyond any 'obligation' any of us have to take care of our fellow men. Maybe she is not a saint, but I wouldn't call her evil. She's done more for a woman she didn't know than I personally would...

Anyways. I don't want this to turn into a discussion about the nature of evil,.else we could spend days and weeks and years talking about it and still not reach any agreement. Let's just say that Emma thinks tricking/seducing someone into the worst fate imaginable is very Evil.

And more importantly:
But she does. She might lose all her powers (Emma doesn't have powers either), she might put herself in terrible danger. She might even die and sent to hell. But she would'nt be condemming other people to the same fate.
And Emma would be willing to help her with that. And like I said, Emma would even be willing to cooperate with her in other investigations. What we can't expect Emma is to be friends with someone she considers to be worse than a serial killer.

Emma isn't friends with Elliot. And Benji really does try to make sure he doesn't harm anyone. Emma might change her mind about him once she actually sees him lose control and kill someone. But for now, she wants to believe he can get it under control. And still - killing someone out of hunger is not subjecting them to eternal torment in a literal hell.
Which i am perfectly willing to. And if Pers is ever truly repentant, perhaps they might become friends again (though the longer it takes, the less likely it becomes).

Just as a note, as a player I don't believe in the existence of souls or the afterlife, but we're in a fictional world in which these things DO exist. Even if they didn't, Emma still considers herself to be a good person (even if others think it is up for debate, this is her own perception of herself). She has lines she won't cross. For that purpose, it doesn't matter if souls or hell exist or not. She wouldn't be personal friends with a murderer/rapiest either. She wouldn't help them escape prison/hospital so they could commit more crimes. Etc, etc

So this is not about belief in the supernatural, but more her personality and character.

If I need to change and play something else so I don't derail the game, I am willing to do that too. I really do enjoy playing with all of you, and it wasn't my intention to create a character that would end up disruptive to anyone's enjoyment of the game.

Thanks. I did direct that question to @Drgwen on my original post though. I want to make sure she's alright with the way the two characters interact too.

As a player, I have sympathy for Pers situation, and I don't think she has done something morally repugnant yet either. Emma has no idea, of course, that Pers has yet to compromise herself (when Pers originally revealed her true form to Emma she merely said she is tasked with convincing people to sign away their souls).

Thank you, and I enjoyed reading everything you wrote too, despite it's visceral portrayal of trauma.

I think Emma is actually going to take a closer look at her own life now, and possibly make some adjustments. We'll see how it goes.

Sorry, it was a poor choice of words. I should have used 'tempt', rather than 'seduce'. When Pers first revealed her nature to Emma, she told her that's what her job entails; convincing people to sign away their souls, in the same way she was convinced

The moral condemnation isn't directed from me as a player. This is Emma expecting accountability and responsibility from Pers, and there might be an element of impatience there indeed too (the same way she was impatient with Sarah, who was also a victim). Maybe it is good for Pers to have someone who isnt OK with whatever it is she is doing, and calls her out for it? Pers herself knows what she is doing is evil, and admitted as such, so it shouldn't be a suprise other people have the same view on it?

Anyways, I never said they could never be friends again. I'm saying 'as long as'.

I realize Emma might not be too suitable for this game, if she can't stomach the actions of some of the playbooks. This is why I suggested I was the one who might need to make the change, rather than you.