Who let the frogs out? (OOC)

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Oct 16, 2025 6:09 am
Drgwen says:
... Also, does Benji *know* the puddle in the bookstore is a portal?
No way for he could know that.
Drgwen says:
Oh obviously he doesn't. (adding this correction here rather than editing)
Not sure why it is obvious, though it would be safe to assume. :)
Oct 16, 2025 6:20 am
He had no idea at the time that the frog he transported was fey--I assume he would have suspected they were if he had known that was a fey portal.
Oct 16, 2025 7:18 am
Jacob did not mention to anyone that the pond was related to his portaling back... in fact, he did not mention the pond at all, so it came as a surprise to those who visited the shop and found the books damp.
Oct 17, 2025 12:42 pm
Just realized I need some GM buy-in AFTER writing that cool and dramatic post.

Max isn't in sight of the moon since it's daytime. However... this was not a transformation that she was in control of. So, does that still count? Or should I cross my whole post out.
Oct 17, 2025 12:49 pm
Morphling says:
Just realized I need some GM buy-in AFTER writing that cool and dramatic post.

Max isn't in sight of the moon since it's daytime. However... this was not a transformation that she was in control of. So, does that still count? Or should I cross my whole post out.
We can let it happen. Maybe there is a sliver of moon up there? Or reflecting in the clouds? Or, as you say, maybe uncontrolled changes can happen any time?
Morphling says:
(in RP) ... one last bid to regain control of herself. It's not enough. ...
And then Max was a werewolf.
One wonders, though, does losing control like this lead to Max losing control... even further?

I don't think we want to add to this by having Max go on a rampage as well. But, if you want to risk it, maybe a boosted Keep Your Cool [ref] to maintain some semblance of control over yourself (or even to stay with the others, or to turn back when the time comes?)?

You have already revealed your secret to all the PCs... and (though you don't know it) drawn the attention of something supernatural (which we can deal with after we give everyone a chance to react).
Oct 17, 2025 12:52 pm
vagueGM says:
... drawn the attention of something supernatural ...
Speaking of: Does anyone have anything they want to see drawn into this scene? I have a few ideas of who I might bring in, but welcome requests.
Oct 17, 2025 1:05 pm
Here's how I've been playing Max and her transformations. Basically, she has three states. The savage wolf state, where she's basically an animal, the werewolf state, where she's a large predator with the mind of a human, and the human state, where she's Max. Her natural state is the werewolf state, but since she doesn't spend enough time in this state the way a healthy werewolf should, not only does it try to surface at inconvenient times, but another unnatural state has emerged, the savage wolf. Max is barely if at all aware of how this works.

Max is most vulnerable to unwilling transformation when she's stressed or angry, as stated in her playbook. You might notice she has something of an anger problem, this is actually a new thing, old human Max was not a particularly angry person, but now there's a wolf inside her that she's struggling to deal with. Once she's unwillingly transformed, the surest way to transform back is to resolve the emotional issue that forced the transformation in the first place. The transformation in Alara's apartment is a fine example: She wasn't just annoyed at the way Alara chose to deal with her, she was deeply angry at what she saw as an unjust situation that Alara was forced into. She only managed to transform back by resolving to help her out of it. In this situation, she'll probably need to figure out a plan to deal with the hellhound, if she can't then she might need to Keep her Cool to turn back, and a miss on that might indeed mean becoming the savage wolf.

Finally, the savage wolf doesn't rampage around killing people. It acts like a normal wolf, avoiding humans and acting on instinct. Just wanted to clear that up. :)
Oct 17, 2025 1:13 pm
Morphling says:
... Finally, the savage wolf doesn't rampage around killing people. It acts like a normal wolf, avoiding humans and acting on instinct. Just wanted to clear that up. :)
Except that: • Sometimes you lose control while transformed means you lose control. A wolf in the middle of a crowd of strange people is not a pretty sight. But you are in the park, so, this time, you can probably get away from everyone (• Your territory includes open grounds for you to roam and hunt (add blessing: +sanctuary)).

But I don't want to spoil the scene by making you run off. Do you think you are aware enough to recognize your 'friends' and help them against anything that might come?
Oct 17, 2025 1:16 pm
She'd definitely recognize Benji as a friend. She'd be suspicious of Persephone because she smells like demon. She'd be confused about Emma because she'd remember something sexy about her (her erotic thriller) but she wouldn't smell herself on her, so she'd realize that she wasn't her mate (very confusing!).

But since she hasn't gone savage yet, this is academic at this point.
Oct 17, 2025 1:17 pm
vagueGM says:
Except that: • Sometimes you lose control while transformed means you lose control. A wolf in the middle of a crowd of strange people is not a pretty sight. But you are in the park, so, this time, you can probably get away from everyone (• Your territory includes open grounds for you to roam and hunt (add blessing: +sanctuary)).

But I don't want to spoil the scene by making you run off. Do you think you are aware enough to recognize your 'friends' and help them against anything that might come?
Oh yes, I definitely agree that she could be a danger to others. I just want to make it clear that she doesn't turn into the antagonist of a horror movie.
Oct 17, 2025 1:20 pm
Morphling says:
... But since she hasn't gone savage yet, this is academic at this point.
Well, it is an important question, because it shapes what narrative options we have if we don't want to spoil things. Nothing wrong with academics. :)
Morphling says:
... Max is barely if at all aware of how this works.
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Might be she has no idea of this deeper, savage, layer? Yet...?
Oct 17, 2025 1:27 pm
vagueGM says:
Might be she has no idea of this deeper, savage, layer? Yet...?
Seems pretty likely, since even if she has gone savage once or twice in the past, she'd probably only have vague memories she might interpret as dreams and no friendly faces nearby to tell her "Woah, you freaked out there for a moment."
Oct 17, 2025 6:57 pm
Obv we aren't going to have a PvP fight here. She just assumes the worst for the moment.

Also, @vagueGM , I can't yet use my Devil inside move, right? I'd like to resolve that ASAP tbh. I think it's time for Pers to make the pitch to Viv (secretly, of course). Pers needs her mojo back!
Oct 18, 2025 7:32 am
Drgwen says:
... I think it's time for Pers to make the pitch to Viv (secretly, of course). Pers needs her mojo back! ...
Especially if you plan to head down with Benji 'later today' [ref].
Oct 18, 2025 7:33 am
Morphling says:
(in RP) ... "I can't ...' go off and vanish for several fuckin' days! I got work! I got a ki... ..." ...
Nothing in life is easy.

Benji wandered around for days, but it may be possible to find a shorter route now that you have some 'guidance'.

Alasdair's lair was only a few hours away from the surface, but it does stand in the way of getting lower down —almost by design— so you may have to find a way around it.

You may be able to do this in stages? Free the prisoners, and then come back to explore further...?
But, if you free Alasdair's prisoners, you may stir up the hornet's nest and have a harder time getting below?
Oct 21, 2025 12:18 am
I struggled, but I managed to resist a Lassie reference with Max!
Oct 21, 2025 8:51 am
Drgwen says:
(OOC in RP) We've established that I don't have access to The Devil Inside move. What about "Let it Out"?
Anything that does not come from your Dark Patron is not affected by their displeasure, so, if you can shape it as coming from you then you can do it... or try it.

What did you have in mind?
Oct 21, 2025 8:00 pm
Well depending on what we find, she may need to move through an obstacle or do harm. Alternatively if this is some kind demon faux pas I might want to draw my patron’s attention—as dangerous as that is
Oct 22, 2025 7:18 am
Drgwen says:
... move through an obstacle or do harm ...
Both of those sounds like demonic abilities, right? Not something you would be able to do on your own?
Drgwen says:
... Alternatively if this is some kind demon faux pas ...
Faux pas in what way?
Drgwen says:
... draw my patron’s attention ...
I would think that option is always an option.
Drgwen says:
... —as dangerous as that is
As you say. :)
Oct 22, 2025 10:50 pm
vagueGM says:
Drgwen says:
... move through an obstacle or do harm ...
Both of those sounds like demonic abilities, right? Not something you would be able to do on your own?
Oh yeah, I forgot that limitation. Ugh yeah. Pers needs to seal the deal and move on. Getting tired of that.
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