After Breakfast - THIRD HERD Bunkroom

hmm where are the lists? The images are not available. Are you sending them to the players in a PM?

The row of pics right after he says he needs them by 1600. DA 3645 Front, Back and Addendum. Please refresh, log out and log back in, and let me know if you still can’t see them.

I can see them... can I read them? That's another question.

Switched to PC, images are still to small to read. It’s like an image of a thumbnail not the image itself.

Yeah even if I save the image and open on another app.

Hmmmm. Well, I’ll post the full-size pics then

A quick explanation as to why there seems to be so much gear. This is a combination of factors that just happened to intersect.

First, the mission you are being set up on is considered by Brigade to be high enough priority that several stops are being pulled out.
Second, a vast majority of this gear just came across on the recent mass airlift.
Third, you’ll be told a bit later that if you already have equivalent equipment, then you won’t get issued the "new stuff".


To answer the question regarding putting all this stuff on your character sheet, I would say since they are posted here, don’t worry about transferring everything. Just keep track of losses. The Squad-Level Equipment will be assigned at either CIF or during the next few days before step-off.

As for encumbrance, you may have noticed that under Squad-Level Equipment, there are 5 Ahkio Sleds. These are sleds designed to help transport heavy, bulky equipment in very snowy environments. They are toboggan-style sleds and can be pulled by one or two soldiers, although standard procedure is to have one soldier connected to each corner for control. I will have a "standard load" figure posted when the group goes to draw the equipment so folks don’t have to try to calculate encumbrance an this equipment list.
there is a bit of this that is ‘factored in".

Vest - Load Bearing is body armor?

No. It is the updated version of the Alice Load Bearing Equipment (LBE) or "web gear". I believe the Marines have a specific name, 782 or "deuce" gear.

Good ole seven eight deuce

If memory serves it wasn't actually a 782 though back in 97, but an LBV 88. The corps still refers to modern FILBE as 782s because tradition.

I did not see any rules for load bearing equipment, but anything to decrease encumbrance would be good. Even though McCain can sprint with his current load, less is more.

A word of warning, the GM is an old 172nd ID vet and knows a little of artic warfare and this equipment.

All I remember form my 2 months at Greely for a test of the Abrams was that it was extremely cold and we had to be very careful during the test.

Anyway a good visual primer is the US Army Northern Warfare Training Center pamphlet that is stock full of images to help out. It explains a lot of this equipment. Like all Army training materiel, of course it contains all the 'nice' cold weather injury images up front so you take it seriously.
If anyone has an issue with the link, let me know off list and I will shoot you a copy.

For your viewing pleasure is a few images of 25th ID and/or 11th Airborne Soldiers with the gear. Use the images as a source of to help you visualize the gear and I assume the weather, conditions, etc.

To the GM - The ECWS III is the old pre-2005 version, right??

so it is woodland camo Gortext jacket and pants, the old bearsuit top, etc. BC the items you listed are using the new names for the newer generation of extreme cold weather gear. So which is it?
Sorry I am a visual guy.

Damn… busted. And double busted. Well, most of the ECWCS stuff came out after I got out of the Army, so I couldn’t use my own recollection and I was having problems finding a pre-1999 list. But give me a day or two and I’ll try to get the period-correct list to you.