Retreat! (OOC)

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Jun 14, 2025 8:57 am
Delirium says:
... I hope you don't mind and find it too game-y ... Getting advances in this game is hard enough... ...
It is an unfortunately part of the game, the rulebook suggests just this sort of strategy to make the leveling work.
Delirium says:
... I will wait and allow @drgwen to roll 'Put a Face to a Name', since Emma already has 'Power' marked. ...
I am not sure how it makes any difference, though. Either you roll it now for Chaudry, or you don't roll it, you can't do it later.

Both Emma and Persephone can roll. Sorry if my use of 'either ... or' made it sound like it was one or the other. You can both roll, either of you might know something.
Jun 14, 2025 9:13 am
I somehow read it as an 'or'. In that case, I'll roll
Jun 14, 2025 9:17 am
That's a hit on 'putting a name to a face'. What does Emma know about him?
Jun 14, 2025 11:26 am
Delirium says:
That's a hit on 'putting a name to a face'. What does Emma know about him?
We'll see what Persephone gets, and how the information is distributed between you.
Jun 14, 2025 12:22 pm
Drgwen says:
(in RP)...
[color="red"]"[color="red"][f=font-aniron small]Chaudry? Hmmm...[/f][/color]"[/color]
First you can add the color:red to the [ f] tag, no need to run it separately, unless you want to. So: [ f=font-aniron small color:red]

On an 11 on Put a Face to a Name you get to say if you know something special and useful about them, or if they Owe you Debt. I don't see how a Debt would be in play here, but it is still up to you. What do you choose?
Jun 14, 2025 12:39 pm
Oh I think she'd know something special about Chaudry. Perhaps Worthington including Chaudry in a rundown of the local players?

Also, I assume that Persephone's legal name does not hold the same power that a demon's true name might. Hmm, I wonder if the power of names does not apply to humans, or if, like in A Wizard of Earthsea, humans do in fact have hidden True names, but almost no one knows theirs?
Jun 14, 2025 12:51 pm
Drgwen says:
... Perhaps Worthington including Chaudry in a rundown of the local players? ...
'Worthinton' being Wentworth?
Drgwen says:
... I assume that Persephone's legal name does not hold the same power ...
It absolutely does, to the right people. Most people have no idea, those who are in the know often don't give full names. Do we know your Surname? Middle name? Benji's? Chaudry's?

The problem with humans: They are so changeable, so, even if one gets someone's true name, from their own mouth, it might not work next month, after they have had some 'life altering experience' and see themself differently.
Drgwen says:
(in RP) ... "Thank you. I won't forget this. ..."
What are you thanking it for?
Jun 14, 2025 10:42 pm
Oops yes Wentworth. And very well, her full name is a True Name, but simply having her Given name and Family name is not enough.

Persephone was thanking the demon because it is clearly getting ready to lie to its boss about us getting away, which suggests that the demon will let us get away! Also, Persephone has been trying to cultivate a ... for lack of a better word, sense of fellow-feeling with the other demon. We are both put-upon low level employees in a heartless system and we believe we deserve better.

I don't know? IRL, I have worked in food service, and retail, and education. And whenever I would meet someone working in the same industry, there's an immediate sense of camaraderie, a common struggle, a shared sense of trauma and suffering, honestly, that connects us. I am thinking Persephone is trying to cultivate that sort of bond here, as a way to manipulate this demon, should it become necessary.
Jun 14, 2025 10:47 pm
Persephone's plan here is to maintain a contact with this demon, so she can use him to get to Chaudry, perhaps. Or just in general begin to build a network of demonkind that isn't controlled by Wentworth and her patron.
Jun 15, 2025 5:18 am
Drgwen says:
... her full name is a True Name, but simply having her Given name and Family name is not enough. ...
We all know the power when a parent breaks out the middle name. That invocation means we are in trouble. :)

We could probably even obfuscate our true name by modulating how we say our full name. This is all new ground for our characters.
Drgwen says:
... Persephone was thanking the demon because it is clearly getting ready to ...
OK. Thanking it for thinking about helping you. Will probably help get it to help. Just confirming that we were on the same page that it had not actually done anything to help ... yet.
Drgwen says:
... trying to cultivate that sort of bond here ...
It's working!
Drgwen says:
... as a way to manipulate this demon ...
Oh, sad. :.(
Drgwen says:
... to build a network of demonkind that isn't controlled by Wentworth and her patron ...
OK!

I think you might need to Persuade or Trick it into giving you its name, so you can contact it again in the future?
Jun 15, 2025 1:30 pm
Heh, like with Viviana, she gives her phone number and leaves it up to them to contact her, or not. I like this, actually, because now her targets have been shown the temptation, and if they reach out, it is of their own free will, and Pers can claim some degree of innocence. It is not lost on me that this is likely the next step on the road to hell paved with good intentions.

I went ahead and rolled to Persuade, even though I did not demand the demon's name. To seal the deal, and make this all work, Persephone is willing to stop and find out what kissing a demon is like.

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Jun 15, 2025 1:31 pm
Also, side note: I haven't been engaging with the Corruption mechanics and I really need to start doing that, I think. I'm gonna go re-read them, because they feel especially fitting for this character.
Jun 15, 2025 2:37 pm
Drgwen says:
(OOC in RP) ... Rolling Persuade (she's not misleading or tricking, and it's clear what she's offering).
Then don't roll. Now we have to deal with it.

I think the 'seduction' is clear and the demon is already a little smitten with you, though it thinks you are also a demon... though Persephone also thinks she is a demon... so that's alright? :)
Drgwen says:
... leaves it up to them to contact her, or not. ...
With Viviana there is a high likelihood of her making contact. This poor demon will have a hard time, but we shall see. :)
Drgwen says:
... Persephone is willing to stop and find out what kissing a demon is like. ...
He's game if you ever take the time to find out. But he is 'at work, right now'.
Drgwen says:
Also, side note: I haven't been engaging with the Corruption mechanics and I really need to start doing that, I think. I'm gonna go re-read them, because they feel especially fitting for this character.
Completely up to you when and how much you engage with that. If you want to talk about it, we can take a look.
Jun 15, 2025 2:50 pm
vagueGM says:
Then don't roll. Now we have to deal with it.
Sorry, I was responding to what you had said here (ref), namely,
vagueGM says:
I think you might need to Persuade or Trick it into giving you its name, so you can contact it again in the future?
Apologies if I should not have rolled.

Concerning Corruption, I just needed to remind myself of what my trigger is, so I can consider activating it more often. OK I'm good to go forward.
Jun 15, 2025 3:43 pm
I rolled 'Let it Out' again to find a clue or an advantage (I'm starting to feel like a one trick pony, but whatever works right now!)
Emma might be right or wrong about what she thinks dug these tunnels, but I'd like her to find a clue leading out (maybe it's an exuviae if she's right, but it can be something else too if she's wrong), for a cost.
Jun 16, 2025 2:40 am
Drgwen says:
... Sorry, I was responding to what you had said here (ref), namely,
vagueGM says:
I think you might need to Persuade or Trick it into giving you its name, so you can contact it again in the future?
Apologies if I should not have rolled.
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You still have to do it in the fiction before you can roll it, though. I was saying you might need to do something if you wanted that result. You haven't done anything to get its name, so you don't get its name. You have flirted enough that it is keen to please you, though, in hopes of a later date and the implied 'kissing'. :)
Jun 16, 2025 2:41 am
Delirium says:
... I'd like her to find a clue leading out ...
I already hinted at the way out [ref]. :) But we can find a another, corrupting, way.

How does this action lead to your Corruption? Mark it on your sheet.
Jun 16, 2025 2:53 am
vagueGM says:
You still have to do it in the fiction before you can roll it, though. I was saying you might need to do something if you wanted that result. You haven't done anything to get its name, so you don't get its name. You have flirted enough that it is keen to please you, though, in hopes of a later date and the implied 'kissing'. :)
Ah, I understand now. Sorry about my confusion. Yes, definitely. I'll post something that honors the roll then!
Jun 16, 2025 3:12 am
Drgwen says:
... I'll post something that honors the roll then!
I already sorta answered that, with the flirting leading to it being smitten with you, but the complication being that it can't easily contact you, so that will be complicated.

Now, after the fact, you add the request for its name —which you weren't asking for [ref]— so we have to deal with the mechanics:

  • What counter offer does it make? The obvious one is reciprocity, but you already indicated you were not keen to give your true name in return.
  • Or, what payment does it demand before agreeing?

What are you willing to give?
Jun 16, 2025 3:26 am
Ugh. Ok apparently today I am unable to communicate successfully—or to understand, at least. What a mess I’ve made.

Ok, she’ll give her name. She doesn’t yet understand its power. After all, she thinks, her name is part of the public record; it can’t be powerful. I am happy to see how this plays out.

Ok, I’ll be taking a break from posting for a day or so, until I get my head a bit clearer.
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