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Apr 20, 2025 5:27 pm
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Here are mundane and supernatural ideas of how you could all know each other more intimately than simply living in the same village:

Mundane

1. Two of you are directly related. Or maybe more, if you want to be cousins.
2. Several years ago two of you were helping out in the Wilds (trapping, logging, foraging, whatever) when the leader of the expedition was hurt badly. They fell down a ravine, the tree they were logging went the wrong way and crushed them or what have you. You two worked together to save that person (or you worked hard and failed, and now maybe there are people in the town who won't let you forget your failings.
3. One of you fell into Lake Criss, either when fishing or playing or trying to take a shortcut or something. One or more of the rest of the group helped fish you out of the water.

Supernatural

1. While on patrol or playing in the woods, one, two or more of you came across a circle of saplings, mushrooms and rocks in the woods.
2. While tending to the modest cemetery in the village, one or more of you kept seeing a shadow in the corner of your eye but when you turned to look at it, it was gone.
3. One of you got lost in the Wilds for quite some time. Everyone thought you were dead, there was even a funeral. You came back months later and you can't remember what happened.

Let me know if these help or reach out to me personally if you want some more personalized options.
Excellent, lots of good options here!
Apr 20, 2025 5:33 pm
Thanks! Those are just ideas, too. I'm open to other options if you all find them compelling.
Apr 20, 2025 6:04 pm
Regarding Odin's connection to the Raven Queen:

Warlocks sworn to the Raven Queen receive visions and whispers from her in their dreams, sending them on quests and warning them of impending dangers.

Is it possible the Raven Queen guided Odin to the others? That they will be a part of something she feels he is needed for in order to succeed...or somwthing like that?
Apr 20, 2025 6:24 pm
Sardis says:
Regarding Odin's connection to the Raven Queen:

Warlocks sworn to the Raven Queen receive visions and whispers from her in their dreams, sending them on quests and warning them of impending dangers.

Is it possible the Raven Queen guided Odin to the others? That they will be a part of something she feels he is needed for in order to succeed...or somwthing like that?
I'm going to reach out to you personally in the next several hours. Warlocks are story fuel for GMs. 💪🐦‍⬛
Apr 20, 2025 8:14 pm
@sardis @synaptic Not that you can't also intertwine with others in the party, but with the Raven Queen being the Warlock's patron and the College of Spirits being the way that the Barb is looking at going, I was wondering if the two of you wouldn't want to have something to do with each other? Maybe you could work around the church and cemetary?
Apr 20, 2025 8:26 pm
I don't know enough about the definition of spirit in the context of the college of spirits.

From Raven Queen subclass:

The Raven Queen’s followers are expected to serve her will in the world. She concerns herself with ensuring that those fated to die pass from the world as expected, and bids her agents to defeat those who seek to cheat death through undeath or other imitations of immortality. She hates intelligent undead and expects her followers to strike them down, whereas mindless undead such as skeletons and zombies are little more than stumbling automatons in her eyes.
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Are they undead, or something different?
Apr 20, 2025 8:49 pm
Sardis says:
Are they undead, or something different?
The College of Spirits are spiritual mediums, they aren't undead-raising necromancers if that's what your question is. The Raven Queen might even look upon the College of Spirits with approval; she's not anti-undeath, she's anti-stagnation.

In the world of D&D Necromancy isn't inherently a banned or evil school; all of the resurrection spells are Necromancy, afterall. Even Spare the Dying is a Necromancy spell.
Apr 20, 2025 9:10 pm
So...are they communicating with the spirits (and the spirits remain in the spirit realm)? Or do the spirits existing on the material plane that have yet to go wherever it is spirits go? Or are they in the spirit realm and the summoned to the material plane?

From the entry for College of Spirits says:

Using occult trappings, these bards conjure spiritual embodiments of powerful forces to change the world once more. Such spirits are capricious, though, and what a bard summons isn't always entirely under their control.

This suggests to me the last of the 3. From my understanding of the Raven Queen, she (and her followers/warlocks) would have a problem with this. If the first, I think that would be fine.

That all said, you're the GM and I'm open to any changes you wish to make as to how the Raven Queen (and thus my character) view the practices of those from the college of spirits.
Apr 20, 2025 9:16 pm
This is the perfect kind of thing we could work out with an intertwined story line between you two! But I do want to make it clear that I don't want issues like this to stop anyone from playing what they want to play, nor do I want it to cause internal strife in the party.

My original idea is that you two could have been working together at the cemetary and the local church to see the dead off peacefully. Neile taking it upon themselves to learn their stories and tell them to family members or loved ones who ask, while Odin helps with the other spiritual aspects of their going to the Great Beyond.

But let's wait and see what @synaptic thinks might be compelling.
Apr 20, 2025 9:26 pm
Kish Frostfell : 75 - 9 - 14 -10 - 14 - 11 = 17
Are backgrounds limited?
Last edited April 20, 2025 10:25 pm

Rolls

stats - (4d6h3, 4d6h3, 4d6h3, 4d6h3, 4d6h3)

4d6h3 : (2341) = 9

4d6h3 : (5245) = 14

4d6h3 : (1523) = 10

4d6h3 : (6253) = 14

4d6h3 : (4215) = 11

Apr 20, 2025 10:46 pm
Backgrounds are not limited as long as they thematically make sense to the fact that you have lived in this tiny rural town for your entire life.
Apr 20, 2025 10:52 pm
I was going to go criminal or Outlander but took a look at current options. If either Rewarded (lucky feat) or Rune Shaper are allowed I will take one of those to tie into awakening his sorcerers bloodline.
Last edited April 20, 2025 10:57 pm
Apr 20, 2025 11:02 pm
Let me research those and I'll get back to ya.
Apr 21, 2025 9:15 am
Sardis says:
So...are they communicating with the spirits (and the spirits remain in the spirit realm)? Or do the spirits existing on the material plane that have yet to go wherever it is spirits go? Or are they in the spirit realm and the summoned to the material plane?

From the entry for College of Spirits says:

Using occult trappings, these bards conjure spiritual embodiments of powerful forces to change the world once more. Such spirits are capricious, though, and what a bard summons isn't always entirely under their control.

This suggests to me the last of the 3. From my understanding of the Raven Queen, she (and her followers/warlocks) would have a problem with this. If the first, I think that would be fine.

That all said, you're the GM and I'm open to any changes you wish to make as to how the Raven Queen (and thus my character) view the practices of those from the college of spirits.
"Bards of the College of Spirits seek tales with inherent power-be they legends, histories, or fictions-and bring their subjects to life."

"At 3rd level, you employ tools that aid you in channeling spirits, be they historical figures or fictional archetypes."


I think it's honestly a bit ambiguous exactly what this subclass is contacting, but my take on those spirits is that some of them could be the echoes/ghosts of great people of ages past, while others are more some kind of embodiment of archetypes and legendary tales (so "story-spirits" essentially).

So there is some skirting of the boundary between life and death involved, but it's more along the lines of "share your wisdom and skills with me, and then return to your peaceful slumber" than it is "join my blasphemous army of the dead!" So I guess it depends on exactly where the Raven Queen would draw the line?

Either way, I do like the idea that Nelie would do some work around the cemetary, singing elegies and gathering the stories of the dead.
Apr 21, 2025 11:08 am
Finishing up Kethra, finalizing her starting gear. Only 90 gold, so can’t afford chain mail and still get all the survival-related gear I prolly want (tent, pack, blanket, travelers clothes etc). Prolly dual wielding a versatile weapon and taking a dip on my AC with scale Mail or a chain shirt.
Apr 21, 2025 2:25 pm
Psybermagi says:
I was going to go criminal or Outlander but took a look at current options. If either Rewarded (lucky feat) or Rune Shaper are allowed I will take one of those to tie into awakening his sorcerers bloodline.
Rewarded is fine with me!
WhiteDwarf says:
Finishing up Kethra, finalizing her starting gear. Only 90 gold, so can’t afford chain mail and still get all the survival-related gear I prolly want (tent, pack, blanket, travelers clothes etc). Prolly dual wielding a versatile weapon and taking a dip on my AC with scale Mail or a chain shirt.
You will all have access to a set warm winter survival clothing. Y'all have lived in this area for your entire lives, you're used to it and you're equipped for it. I don't think that'll fix your mail problem, though.
Apr 21, 2025 3:18 pm
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So there is some skirting of the boundary between life and death involved, but it's more along the lines of "share your wisdom and skills with me, and then return to your peaceful slumber" than it is "join my blasphemous army of the dead!" So I guess it depends on exactly where the Raven Queen would draw the line?
Agreed with the GMs position on where the Raven Queen draws the line.

If they speak to the spirits without bringing them into the Material Plane, as written, i don't see the Raven Queen having an issue with this.

If they pull them into the Material Plane from wherever the spirits of the dead go, even temporarily, i see this being, as written, a sticking point.

Again, I'm not opposed to the GM altering the Raven Queen's position related to this.
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Either way, I do like the idea that Nelie would do some work around the cemetary, singing elegies and gathering the stories of the dead.
I could see Odin working in the cemetary with more of a "get in the ground and stay in the ground" kind of attitude/mind set related to the dead.

Nelie is honoring their passage from this world and Odin is guarding against their possible return.
Apr 21, 2025 4:13 pm
I think it's important when talking about where the Venn diagram of College of Spirits and the Raven Queen's tenants and practices merge, is that the College of Spirits isn't about control, it's about reverence. A skald of the people of Ormskirk who can make sure that the memories of the town live on.

...and maybe help you better understand what's happening in the upcoming adventure. 😉
Apr 21, 2025 4:28 pm
Sardis says:

I could see Odin working in the cemetary with more of a "get in the ground and stay in the ground" kind of attitude/mind set related to the dead.

Nelie is honoring their passage from this world and Odin is guarding against their possible return.
I like that dynamic! And to my mind, as long as he isn't about to straight up murder her for her activities, I don't think it has to be a bad thing that they don't see eye-to-eye on this. A little bit of intra-party tension can be fun. And they do both overall agree that what is dead should stay dead, they just might disagree on some details.
Raddue says:
I think it's important when talking about where the Venn diagram of College of Spirits and the Raven Queen's tenants and practices merge, is that the College of Spirits isn't about control, it's about reverence. A skald of the people of Ormskirk who can make sure that the memories of the town live on.
That bit about control is actually a very good point. None of the subclass features are about compelling spirits, just opening herself up and inviting them to tell their tales through her.
Last edited April 21, 2025 7:23 pm
Apr 21, 2025 4:30 pm
Lets do it

16, 13, 12, 10, 9 = 60 (75-60=15) so 16, 15,13, 12, 10, 9

Leta is done.
Last edited April 21, 2025 8:39 pm

Rolls

stat - (4d6h3, 4d6h3, 4d6h3, 4d6h3, 4d6h3)

4d6h3 : (3142) = 9

4d6h3 : (5262) = 13

4d6h3 : (2135) = 10

4d6h3 : (4616) = 16

4d6h3 : (1426) = 12

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