Dice pools? Dice pools.

Also, it seems that 0d8 is calculated as 1d8?

test

Even if typed into the Roll field manually, so it's not the char sheet integration that's causing that problem

I'll need to test out Chal's code thing. If that works for this, that would be great.

Otherwise
Maybe a new roll table tag. Something like [table="rollspool"]. And if you click things inside that table, they get pooled rather than posted separately ?‍♀️

Gives Chalry all the cookies.

That's what I had in mind. Thanks a bunch.
Now, what were you debating about?

Okay, so with some tweaks on my machine (without using dicepool)

Chal's logic renders this (which updates as you select checkboxes)



And rolls this (stripping 0d's)

Although I'm not dismissing the rollspool idea (I think it sounds interesting - esp. for star wars where they need to add purple(?) dice).

Is this rolls pool something that people want?

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Chal's thing but that might take care of the problem. Rollspool might be easier, though (On the user side, not the adam side)

Can't really say before I spent a bit more time trying to work out the workaround

That looks good and I think it would be useful to have.

I think the rollpool, where you click multiple, would also be useful and might be clearer and less coding on the user end. The current way doesn't tell the other players which abilities you're using, the rollpool multi-click way would presumably add the label of each click to the Reason field, which might make it easier to follow.

Right, that's an issue I didn't notice right away. That makes the feature less useful as you'd still have to type out what you're using... Though maybe you could use variables to also have the thing automatically add descriptions? I'm still struggling with this code but it doesn't seem impossible

If you add this under the abilities:

#Selected Abilities
Teams: [_$=tBool]
Uncompromising: [_$=uBool]
Superhuman Punch: [_$=spBool]
Enhanced Speed: [_$=esBool]
Combat: [_$=cBool]

Then you get a drop down menu that will add a spoiler showing which abilities were selected.
(I updated Chal's Example sheet, so people can test it out)


But this feels like a hack, so I think the rollpool idea would be cleaner and more user friendly.

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This is a little more pretty than 1's and 0's.

Wait. Are these pools supposed to add them? I thought BoS wanted them comma separated.

I just did addition as my example. I think it would depend on the game. Some games want added total, some might want number of 1's, etc.

We might want to find a lowest common denominator for dice pools, since there is no such thing as 'a dice pool game', they all have different rules with regards to what is done with the dice after they are collected and rolled.

Some might want them totalled up, some might want them separate. There are games where some cancel each other out, and other intricate rules, but those (as with FFG Star Wars) would probably need their own underlying code and could not easily or safely be expressed by the general dice roller.

There are even games where we might roll a variety of dice 2d6+2d8+1d10+5d5 and keep the highest. Currently I don't see any way to have the dice roller syntax keep the highest from that (though it can keep the highest from each type, which I have needed before).

Just a way to collect them may be all we can offer, then the players would need to interpret what they mean.

Yes, I was assuming this was just to make the rolling easier. The custom dice rules would be required to interpret results or if they aren't enough then we'd still need to do the interpretation manually for complicated rules for now.

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I added the comma separated option in "Chal's Example" sheet. Seems to work as well. So even if it's too complicated to implement the clickable [rollpool] option, I think this approach will work for some dice pool games (with the slight adjustments that Adam suggested to fix the 0d, in-place-update, etc.)

Okay, so I tried to convert my sheet that I would primarily use this for into Chal's styling and it did not work. I don't quite understand the reasons for what went wrong, but first of all, it doesn't look pretty with so many empty dice in the pool and it seems to have cut off the end because it exceeded the length of the text box. It also didn't actually roll the dice it was supposed to roll, even though it correctly displays them as 1dX



I didn't add the spoiler thingy because with it showing everything, whether you rolled it or not, it also will not be super nice to look at...

So while this is a crazy awesome hack, I don't think it really solves the issue unfortunately :/

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On a positive note: The Edit/Preview toggle was super helpful in troubleshooting my sheet for the many errors I made while trying to get this to work

I too admire the hack, but I'll knock something up for staging tomorrow based on a table attribute. If I understand the requirement then it's just a few lines of javascript.

@bowlofspinach, Hmm ... yeah that doesn't look good. Sounds like Adam thinks the [rollpool] table idea is a possibility, so hopefully that is a better solution.

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@Adam, I think we should still do the update that strips 0d's. It might be better to do that at the level of the sheet instead of at the dice roller, so if there are tons of 0d's in the roll calculation on a sheet, they don't make a mess on the sheet. It would also stop really long lists of no dice being input in the the dice roller, which seems to have a limited length based on bowl's test.