Idle Status (player-controlled retirement)

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Mar 10, 2022 4:37 pm
bowlofspinach says:
Highlighting if you weren't the last to post seems like it might get annoying. Especially because sometimes, you don't need to post even if someone else posted after you...
Yeah, sure, highlighted doesn't mean that you need to post, but "not yellow" is a good indicator that you don't need to post.

https://i.imgur.com/W0Glkgg.png
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Mar 10, 2022 4:39 pm
But highlighting seems to indicate that you do need to post.
If we do want something like this (which I don't think we want), I'd prefer to grey out the ones where you were the last to post
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Mar 10, 2022 4:42 pm
bowlofspinach says:
But highlighting seems to indicate that you do need to post.
If we do want something like this (which I don't think we want), I'd prefer to grey out the ones where you were the last to post
Okay, fair enough. This is still a discussion. e.g. the ordering within a group is still creation date (which I'm not sure about). Also is the date-time helpful? We're using moment.js so perhaps a human timespan makes more sense (e.g. "3 days ago", "1 hour ago").

I know you don't use the homepage, but I do. I'd be interested in hearing from people who use the homepage.
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Mar 10, 2022 5:05 pm
bowlofspinach says:
Highlighting if you weren't the last to post seems like it might get annoying. ...
Agreed. This seems unnecessary, and also annoying. Fading out the ones where you were the last to post maybe better, but still seems unnecessary to me. The more visual noise there is on a page, the less value it has.
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Mar 10, 2022 5:05 pm
Adam says:
Also is the date-time helpful? We're using moment.js so perhaps a human timespan makes more sense (e.g. "3 days ago", "1 hour ago").
Personally, I prefer dates and times to '1 hour ago'.
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Mar 10, 2022 5:08 pm
vagueGM says:
bowlofspinach says:
Highlighting if you weren't the last to post seems like it might get annoying. ...
Agreed. This seems unnecessary, and also annoying. Fading out the ones where you were the last to post maybe better, but still seems unnecessary to me. The more visual noise there is on a page, the less value it has.
What you call visual noise, I call useful visual cues. Potato, potato.
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Mar 10, 2022 5:20 pm
Personally I like the date and time but I'm not wedded to it if others preferred a particular time span.
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Mar 10, 2022 5:31 pm
bowlofspinach says:
Okay, but again, that's assuming that the way you would use it is the way everyone uses it. People might have other reasons to idle it than because its inactive.
I didn't say you can only use it for inactive games. You can use it however you want.
What is does is this:
-moved to spoiler
-removed from front
-removed from forum
-kept in Latest

How you use it is up to you.

I said the goal of the feature is to deal with inactive games, so the minimum requirement is to do that. If it is also useful for something else, that's great! If it needs to be tweaked or expanded to do something else, that's a different discussion, or at least I don't think we should throw out the above functionality if we can't get consensus on the extra functionality.
Windyridge says:
Then let's break it down and start with The original idea of snooze was to hide the game until someone posted?
This would limit the feature to inactive games only, but since the design goal is to deal with inactive games, that's fair. Basically, it's the feature I'm describing, but automatically reversed if there's activity. I would prefer it to be user-controlled, but I would rather have an activity-reversed feature than no feature at all!

RE: Reading through the rest of the posts
Reminder:
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FEATURE GOAL
To give players a way to "retire" inactive games
Okay, I'm getting the impression that I was wrong, there isn't consensus that it would be nice to have a player-controlled way to organize the visibility of inactive games (sort of like the way "retire" works - i.e. moved to spoiler, removed from front and forum)

Sooo, I think this feature is in fact ...
[ +- ] DEAD
I'm sad, but that's life.

We should probably move the rest of the discussion to a thread about site-controlled game organization.
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Mar 10, 2022 6:12 pm
I have no preference between time span and date+time. Either works equally well for me
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What you call visual noise, I call useful visual cues. Potato, potato.
I agree with vague here. Unnecessary stuff going on
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Mar 10, 2022 6:20 pm
bowlofspinach says:
I have no preference between time span and date+time. Either works equally well for me
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What you call visual noise, I call useful visual cues. Potato, potato.
I agree with vague here. Unnecessary stuff going on
Unnecessary to you. You don't use that page (much). I use that section all the time.
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Mar 10, 2022 6:34 pm
Sure, I don't use it much. Just sometimes. But even I can imagine getting really annoyed at constant highlighting on that page.

This is the kind of change I'd be very hesitant to implement because it's a lot of annoyance for very little gain.
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Mar 10, 2022 6:36 pm
I find visual cues to be helpful actually. And since the revamp, homepage is my go-to. I think what Adam suggests is a start, with Bowl's remark on greying out instead of highlighting.
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Mar 10, 2022 6:42 pm
Like, @Chalrytharendir, I''ve lost the will to push this. I'm filing this under bollocks to it (again).
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Mar 10, 2022 8:51 pm
We do keep getting sidetracked by features other than the ones being addressed.
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Mar 11, 2022 11:30 am
Yeah. In the end, I just wrote a Tampermonkey script for myself.

https://i.imgur.com/FBbVqLT.png
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Mar 16, 2022 9:47 am
I know this is in "Nope", but after a week, this is what I found works for me.

https://i.imgur.com/dFDEf5L.png

* Old games (dead?) and manually snoozed games go in the bottom bit in grey. e.g. Candlekeep Mysteries is manually snoozed as it is being DMed by Koldik for this chapter, so I don't keep a close eye on it from the home page - I use discord for that.

* I highlight active games (but not the tavern) where I didn't post last. Because I have only a few games it doesn't take long to scan the yellow.

* Case insensitive alpha sorting (ignoring emoji) in the two sections gives me muscle memory.

* Games Tavern goes at the end of active games.

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