[OOC] The Autarkis

May 26, 2025 1:24 pm
A warm-blooded welcome to everyone! Thanks for coming together to play this game! My Discord, for the casual chats.
May 26, 2025 3:58 pm
Thank you for inviting me and giving me an opportunity to play VtM 5e. I have always wanted to try it.
May 26, 2025 4:22 pm
Same here, thank you kindly for the invite. And hi to everyone else, feeling real sanguine about this game and looking forward to getting started!
May 26, 2025 7:24 pm
This should be a lot of fun. Excited to be here with all of you.
May 26, 2025 11:32 pm
Great to be here, looking to mix it up with players both new to me and familiar!
May 27, 2025 1:27 am
Welcome welcome! And we'll give everyone a chance to join up before we start any proper discussions.
May 27, 2025 4:37 am
I really ought to pay attention to the invite page on the forum
May 27, 2025 10:50 am
Looks like everyone's in, welcome again!

I figure we need a moment to wrap our heads around V5 options and pecularities, so browse through and ask questions if you're not sure if something is available. I'm generally keen on allowing everything if it makes sense to whatever you're conceptualising.
May 27, 2025 10:53 am
I do have a question though that you can think about whilst you do chargen, since we're intending to co-construct some of the world. Where would you like your city? I need a ballpark, North America, Europe or Asia, or 'surprise me'?
May 27, 2025 2:13 pm
Hmm... I'd probably pick North America, since it's familiar. My European experience is limited. That said... I am ultimately fine with anywhere.

Except Asia. Because for Asia, we need to play Kindred of the East. 😂
May 27, 2025 2:14 pm
I’m open on setting, so I’d say surprise me
May 27, 2025 2:18 pm
Drgwen says:
I’m open on setting, so I’d say surprise me
Ditto!
May 27, 2025 2:21 pm
North America and Europe are what I'm used to as settings, but always open to trying something new, so I guess I'll go with 'surprise me' as well.
May 27, 2025 2:48 pm
I'm a fan of Europe. It's got those deep old world bones that people from North America such as myself find hard to fathom.

What do you mean this city has been here for 2300 years???
May 27, 2025 2:56 pm
Hm. I never considered old/ancient cities hard to fathom? 🤷‍♂️
May 27, 2025 3:22 pm
I am fine with any setting.
May 27, 2025 3:29 pm
MaJunior says:
Except Asia. Because for Asia, we need to play Kindred of the East. 😂
Heh that's a different game pitch altogether! Either that, or the kuei-jin are the antagonists, but if so we might just as well play V20 instead ;)
May 27, 2025 3:35 pm
Thanks, I believe everyone's replied on this. 4.5 votes for surprise/any, 0.5 for North America, 1 for Europe, (and -1 for Asia in jest!).

Gimme the evening, announcement tomorrow, and you can continue to think character concept around this city!
May 28, 2025 10:26 am
MaJunior's comment left a sticky in my head, and Emberskyes' point about an older city resonated as well. May I propose -

Hong Kong!

There's well established lore on it (it's got its own excellent book from years ago).

Key features to consider for chargen:
- there's no prince at this point, only primogen
- it's cosmopolitan enough to encompass characters of any descent, you don't have to make an asian character. The former prince certainly wasn't.
- your sires will have lived through the British handover to China
- or your sires might have moved to HK to get away from the major vampire political conflicts in US and Europe (5e advances the plot for the Camarilla Anarch conflicts, the slight retreat of the Sabbat, and the rise of the Second Inquisition) and living in a place without a prince allows for that, also explains why they were allow to sire.
- in lore terms, something may have happened between Kindred and kuei-jin in the recent past, but we're not delving into that

You can choose to ignore some of the bullets above of course, and just let things play out. I will be happy to describe things as they unfold. So your character can still make sense as you create it without worrying too much about history.
May 28, 2025 11:28 am
Consider me duly surprised! Interesting, I barely know anything about HK in VtM terms, so this will certainly be a breath of fresh air.

Now to start character crafting in earnest...
May 28, 2025 4:29 pm
I barely know anything about HK that Jackie Chan didn't teach me.
May 28, 2025 11:36 pm
That's an excellent education!
May 29, 2025 12:44 am
Ooo I gave run numerous campaigns in Hong Kong. Okay I've run several Feng Shui games in Hong Kong. Great choice.
May 29, 2025 2:43 am
No chop-socky vamps!! :p
May 29, 2025 3:22 am
Kowloon Mantis Style Blood Bank!
May 29, 2025 7:10 am
Hong Kong! Fascinating! OK time to get to work...
May 29, 2025 3:12 pm
Are you going to give us English and Cantonese for free? Or will we all have to learn Cantonese?
May 29, 2025 3:19 pm
Emberskyes says:
Are you going to give us English and Cantonese for free? Or will we all have to learn Cantonese?
IIRC, You get two languages standard.
May 29, 2025 3:31 pm
Under the Linguistics merit, everyone gets their birth language, and the dominant setting language, both in perfect fluency. For Hong Kong, the setting languages are English and Cantonese, so that takes care of both, or if your character isn't of English nor Cantonese speaking descent, you'll still get one of them. (And go ahead and rationalise that, eg if you don't have Cantonese, it's probably because you haven't been here that long, etc)
Jun 6, 2025 7:11 pm
Yay, almost weekend. Woo!
Jun 7, 2025 12:54 am
Also means it's perfect timing for me to craft our starter posts! Thanks everyone for putting together a solid concept, can't wait to see them in action.

Some reminders: you know what you're getting into with VtM, so I haven't been as considerately circumspect as I often would be to ask about lines and veils, no-go areas, etc. I am expecting we're okay with darker themes and descriptions, but please raise flags anytime if we're going somewhere not all of us are comfortable with, either in thread, or direct message.

Other expectations: as you know, this game intends to give V5 a run for its money, so it's okay to like some of its changes and dislike others. I intend to trial the newer mechanics to see if they hold up, and will occasionally nudge us to consider them (loresheets anyone?). There will be zero 'dungeoncrawl', and as much 'social' development as you can put up with, and combat will not typically be the ultimate solution to everything.

Let me hear your expectations for this game too, if any!
Jun 7, 2025 1:00 am
Go hard, drive it till the Hunger dice fall off.

As to Loresheets, I had put a dot into one but hadn't defined it. Lacking a Hong Kong specific one, I will do that tonight and grab something from the Camarilla book that fits.
Jun 7, 2025 1:41 am
Yeah there won't be a Hong Kong specific one, so we'll custom it once you see something you like and we can collaboratively create some narrative behind that.
Jun 7, 2025 3:41 am
Am here for social mechanics! And yeah, let’s kick the tires on the new mechanics in general, like Hunger. Combat is mostly boring in Vampire games imho, but I’d be willing to try it once, to see if it’s different.

As for lines/limits, I’d like to keep the sexual violence and child abuse to a minimum. But otherwise bring on the darkness
Jun 7, 2025 5:58 am
Yeah, lets not do things to kids.
Jun 8, 2025 7:14 am
Thanks, clear line that, and that aligns with what I prefer as well.
Jun 8, 2025 7:17 am
I've got everyone's character sheet in! Which means we can get started!

You can still be making final adds and tweaks along the way, that's fine.
Jun 11, 2025 12:46 pm
Thanks for the patience everyone! I did take longer than usual to mull over what a good start point might be. You all have your individual threads to start with, and these threads double up as session 0s so that we can work out any bits of detail there which might be missing or need filling.

Stalker05 says he'll be a bit held up this week, so I'll wait for a bit more background from him before I flesh out a good intro for the character.

Also, we all start a game with a die roll! Everyone better get used to the idea of Rouse checks, that's the currency of the system.

Let's get to the thick of it!
Jun 14, 2025 2:45 pm
So, quick one on Rouse checks:

Everytime you wake, you'll need one to see if your Hunger rises. I've assumed everyone slept in the day and woke as night fell, so that's the first roll I asked for.

Next, to have some semblance to humans, you need Blush of Life. This lasts for one night, makes you look like you have some colour on your skin and life to your eyes etc, and in this smartphone era, enables you to swipe touchscreens. (I know there are styluses for that, but let's bear with the fiction for a while more).

Any other Rouse checks have to do with use of disciplines. We'll come to that.

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