The Other Baron (OOC)

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What purpose did we give, some ideas:

- News of the raid at the other side of the valley
- honesty: we are trying to work out a treaty between the 3 parties
- We are looking for a girl
- news of a starting rebellion
- adventurers looking for a job/quest
- ...

anyone with better ideas?

I think this is a good idea. It makes us somewhat useful to the baron, and we can shift the conversation to the other topics.

We could also rat out the resistance. That might get us in faster. But I don't think we're that kind of people, right?

Let's see if Norbert is also waiting patiently, if so the baron will eventually show up and you can talk in whatever direction you choose.

Hehe, yeah. A bit less waiting and a bit more walking than shepherding, but, so far, not what the stories promised. :)

The Deception Skill will only really help you with the deception part, not the negotiation part, but, since we know you can not completely fail at the deception (which would bar you from negotiating) maybe a single +CHA roll will do for both?

In this case (and not at all because you guys have been bullying me about not letting you roll) it might be more appropriate to first do a pure deception roll to determine if your story is believable (he might have people who where there and saw you 'being neutral'). Due to the Skill it can not simply 'fail', but there could still be costs that change the way forward. Depending on that outcome, and what you are wanting from him (the RP post was mainly about the lie) someone might need to make more moves.

I agree with that. I think the negotiation roll can wait until we have a more specific price. Or maybe the baron will make an offer before we set one.

The dice have gone back to hating me :(

I'll wait to see if either Airshark or Fossball want to step in at this point :)

How forceful is Albert being about wanting to come to an agreement before you tell the baron stuff?

He has suggested that he has 'stuff you ('adventurers') would want', which might be better than money, if you push too much he might end up agreeing to pay money and you might loose out on 'interesting items'. Getting him to commit to giving away some of these 'thing you will want' might be a good idea, but carries some risks of course.

If it turns out he does have things you want, what would those things be? Don't worry about what you characters think they would want, feel free to state out-of-character what you, the players, are interested in getting for the party. We can adjust the power-levels to be appropriate, and they might not start out at full power.

Norbert does not feel he has to get involved in the discussion. He tries to keep a straight face but at the tought of some nice adventuring gear (leather armor and maybe even a sword or bow) he does sit up a little straighter.

Sounds good. Pick one, or list them in order of which you would like the most.

How about we ask for the girl as a reward? Or is that too over the top.
If he has her that is...
If the prize has to be something more material,
Roald would ask for a nicer sword. Norbert can have his old sword if he likes.

I'm still searching for my coin purse btw ?


https://gamersplane.com/forums/thread/28097/?p=1354696#p1354696

Creepy. I don't know yet how he would react to such a request, but I dread that he may be willing to offer you a girl as payment...
This is an OOC question, so not about your character asking for anything. Your characters would not know what he has, and you can make it something special if you ask as the player, then we can see if it is at all feasible that he might have such a thing in his collection.
'Nicer' how? Your old one glowed in the dark and killed undead. What do you, as a player, want from a new 'nicer' one?
Oh noes! Have you lost it? Was it stolen? :)

It might not be the best idea to check it in front of the baron, but you might have had time while waiting for him to arrive. If you want to flashback to checking we can do so, else after the meeting?

Albert is trying to see if the baron is taking them seriously or not. If they are invited to a table to talk, that's a good sign that the baron sees value in them.

As a reward, in character, and if asked, Albert wants some provisions. Money is also good.
The real goal is to have a conversation to gain knowledge about the girl and about the barons' feud.

About the girl. I thought the characters suspected that the baron kidnapped the mayor's daughter, maybe I remembered it wrong. Of course they would return the girl home, you dirty mind! ?

I completely forgot about the glowing of the sword. You're right, Roald will not give away that beauty.

Will check purse after the meeting.


That still leaves the question, what payment would Roald need.
He doesn't really need anything except maybe some new clothes or boots, else money.

I thought that might be the case.

It is hard to tell with him. It might need a roll. I am not sure yet what type of roll, there seem to be two issues at hand, gathering information and not offending the baron, it will be a delicate dance to do both, and you may have to dance a bit more before you can roll.

That is something you suspect. Do you want to outright ask him for/about her?

No, but we could mention during the 'talk' that the mayor's daughter was kidnapped and we are trying to return her to her parents. The baron might give her up if there is something in it for him.
You don't abduct a girl without a reason.

Of course.

Let me put on my dancing shoes ?

Norbert is still a pretty little wallflower. If there ever was a glowing undead killing sword up for grabs he would feel he made it as an adventurer and return home to show it to all his relatives.

Alright, we will keep such things out of his hands for now. :)

Which 'kid' and why?

Phil, maybe?

What do we tell the baron.
I was thinking of letting Roald say, that there is an attack on his house in the making. It would already have happend if Olaf didn't go for the wrong baron, so this is the truth. We can tell that people think he kidnapped the mayor's daughter, on top of all the taxes and "thievery" his guards put the people through in his name, and that this was the last straw.

We than put ourselves in the position of negotiators between the three parties. Afterall, economically speaking it's better to trade with each other than be at war

That approach could work.

I agree with that tactic :)
We could also mention a 'mole' by the name of Nixon. Or we can keep that as a trump card.

Yikes! :D

Norbert couldn't remember his name, but Phil sounds right.
Phil would have a better view of the house. To Norbert all rich people and homes look alike.

Hmm... Feels like we may need a roll to determine if Roald's words offend the baron, don't we think?

I am not sure what to roll. There does not seem to be any attempt to be insightful or anything, so WIS does not seem right. Is Roald trying to be charming or somehow avoid offence?

If no normal roll fits we can roll the Die of Fate.

He's not trying to offend, but also not 'not trying '.
He doesn't like being played and has a hard time not showing it.
Can we let the baron say something like 'go on' as if he's thinking: I hear your words but I don't like what I'm hearing, you better tread lightly.
Let Roald continue his argument and roll the die of fate afterwards?

Sure. Dig yourself a longer rope...

Sometimes it's more fun to fail....

I know I'm not supposed to but I.m going to edit my last post. Forgot something important

Why not just add it as a new post?

What did you change? Did you just add names?

yes, to emphasize again that there will be 3 perdsons in this meeting... Again

Cool.

I saw it immediately and didn't want to break the flow we are in

Yeah, it was not the sort of thing that could really be added in a new post, not with it being mid-sentence and all.

In that sort of case, just let us know explicitly what you added/changed so we don't have to do a side-by-side comparison with what is in our memory. :)

Roald thinks the 3 day problem has something to do with the kidnapped girl.
A conversation with Norbert will be quite enlightening a guess.

Let's figure out when the gods have to be pleased.

Will do.

If I put tape over my camera, will that keep you from reading my mind?

Not unless it is very special tape. ~_0
Very astute. Do I need some of your special tape? :)

After a year of playing I thought it was time to use that decipher skill.

@fossball: Don't rush your scene with Marisella, we can stage your meetting up with your companions when you are done with whatever you want to do. Or bring them into your scene if that works out better.

Thankyou,
It's difficult to get to the computer.

We understand.

No worries :)

I'm not sure Roald or Albert would pick up on this 'slight'. As far as I know they don't have much experience with nobility. (Correct me if I'm wrong, Airshark)

So if Albert were to take offense, that would be purely as a bluff to hopefully get better lodging.

Should we push for that option, Airshark/Fossball? It might get us closer to the girl. Unless they're hiding her with the servants.

Yep. That option is there. Would Albert want better lodging?
There is also the Marisella girl, who you maybe able to find in the night and risk a private chat with. Lodging close to her might be helpful?
You have not had any actual hint that she is here. Marisella spoke about 'they' not 'we', but then she is claiming to be excluded from this cabal.

The baron would need to be even more bold than he already seems to offer you lodging if he is keeping her here.

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You all can decide if you want to try to solve this side of the mystery now, or wait till after you get (maybe two) more pieces of information by sneaking around in the night.

In my opinion, ... servant's quarters sound fine. I don't think we can expect to get a nice room with a view. In Roald's mind he is not a famous adventurer, it's just an act. So coming from a stable, the servant's quarters are quite the upgrade.
also, this will give us a chance to get some more information.

Unless you guys want to say anything more to the baron, we can assume you three are together in your room and are sharing your information.

What is your next step?

Sleaping with the servants is fine with Norbert. Going out at night (again) might be more difficult. Especially sneaking to Marisella, he would not want to bring het virtue in danger. Altough he suspects she would be even more eager to join the party and go along on the adventure.

You have your own room. It is not the most private room, so you may be noticed, but going out should be easy enough... and you would only be noticed by servants.
You would need to find her room. How would you do that?
Indeed. You would need to be discrete in your asking around or searching, and then, possibly public in your talking?
You are not wrong. If that is an option you may need to cancel the public part of your talking, and be even more discrete in your searching.

If the players decide that that is a thing the might do, we can have the character's action lead to them to discovering which room is hers without obvious questions (how? chance overheard conversation? sneaking around and watching as she goes to her room? something else?). There will be dice, and the decision to take her with you somewhere would be up to the characters when it comes up.

Question to all concerning the topic of sacrifice:
- Is this something that's 'normal' in our world? Like "Oh, who are they sacrificing this week, Tim?" - "Let me check the board."

If we compare it to medieval times, I'm pretty sure it happened, but I don't know if it was viewed as good or bad at the time. Marisella doesn't seem too fazed by it.

As an initiate of a temple, I think Albert would know a thing or 2 about it if it's something common.

I would say Marisella is mostly reacting to stories of such things. given that she mentioned 'heroes rescuing' people from such things we can assume that even she assumes it is a 'bad thing' in those stories.

Let's maybe say that Albert' temple would have (officially) treated it as something the uncivilised backwaters do, but which is no longer kosher?

I will wait for one of the other to respond. It would feel weird to let Norbert keep on rambeling.

No worries. Though Norbert has some more information that might affect what they say next. Feel free to share those realisations out between you, but Norbert is both local and outdoorsy, so he seemed like the most likely one to realise these facts.

Roald pretty much only had eye for the fortifications being erected. (The fortifications, not Roald)

I suspect it is more a case it being out of fashion with the people than the gods being 'against it'. But Raynor is a god of conquest, so may be more a fan of 'sacrifice in battle' than 'helpless victims'.

We can see how the plea for help goes, it may be more 'rough guidance' then actual direct help unless the dice really are extreme.
You now have a deadline (3 days). Are you going to go straight to sleep? Or is this meaning that you will leave your prayers till the end of whatever you are doing? Gods do like it when you don't rush the time you spend on them. :)

Rough guidance is all I ask :)

I meant Albert will do it before he goes to bed. But depending on the replies from Airshark and Fossball, that might still take a while ;)
I just wanted to say this already in case I forget.

I forgot to answer, but I would say: not a normal thing. Maybe we've all heard stories of human sacrifices in cults, but not in a town.

Agreed. Sacrificing innocent virgins is bad.

Do we need to discuss sacrificing guilty virgins?

Surely it depends on what they feeling guilty about?

Norbert has a point. While the baron is a pompous ass, you don't know that he is involved in the sacrifice. Do you follow your instincts and plan an attack (how do you contact 'the resistance'?) or do you gather more data?

For the record: Marisella is more of a 'young lady' than a 'little girl. Still childish and potentially unreliable, though.

The best way to get any party in trouble :)

Meh. That's a DnDism, based on the idea of 'balanced encounters'.

Oh, ok. :)

Regarding Fossball's post,
I kinda assumed we could send a messenger. That way Norbert wouldn't have to leave. Unless you want to, of course Fossball.
Is that something we can do, vague?

I did not see a way to reach out to them being in a place we don't know anybody. If Roald finds people to deliver the message, Norbert will be glad to stay. Not running around for another day will be a nice change of pace for him.

I am sure you could find someone who would agree to deliver a message. (There are issues of trust, reliability, and speed, but also the issue of what you would say in the message given your lack of known facts.)

I would prefer not to separate the party for most of tomorrow.

@fossball: Also remember that you slept till the afternoon, so sleeping right now might not be needed?

I was thinking something like "We have reason to believe your daughter is being held captive by baron X. We are still investigating, but it might be a good idea to start preparing to get her back. If you haven't heard from us by tomorrow afternoon, send help."

It might bite us in the ass if we're wrong. But if we're right and didn't notify the mayor until it was too late, that seems worse.

Indeed. :)

When are you sending this messenger? Now or after you have spent, maybe, an hour or two wandering around and investigating?

OK, Norbert will stay around :)

Do you want someone to persuade you, or do you want to just delete the 'I'm going to bed' post?

I think we can get on with the help from the dog. I'm getting really attached to her. Norbert will not send her into dangerous situations anymore (I hope).

That works. :)

Roald will probably have a hard time getting them to talk while he is refusing their alcohol. Apparently that is a thing?

You will need to do some persuading, or pretending, or drinking, or something.

Damnit, I hoped I had that covered. ?

Why he why he drinks. Nice one! ?

I did not feel like slurring too much and don't actually spend much time with drunk people, so don't have much vocabulary.

@fossball: Do you want Norbert to find and join Roald, or do you want to stumble across something of his own? If the latter, what do you feel like?

@TheGenerator: I very much doubt you will find a shrine to Raynor here, though we can roll the die of fate with bad odds and bear the consequences if it comes up low. I even doubt there is any shrine at all --they don't seem very religious-- and you would have to tell us how the gods feel about other god's shrines and if they work for or against you.

It does not feel like there is a lot of religiousity in this world, though, so you may have to make do with finding an appropriate seeming place and making your own, temporary, place of worship.

If not Raynor, what sort of people are you wanting Albert to meet? We can arrange something.

Hmm. Does that mean that the (possible) sacrifice of the girl is not a religious thing?

If there's nothing that resembles a shrine, Albert will just wander the halls. I don't really have a good idea of the place, so it's hard to come up with something. Is it a big building with a courtyard and stuff? I don't really know how big I should be imagining this town.

I would say it sounds like a 'religious thing'. Or an imitation of that from long lost memory.
It is not a town, it is the baron's home. Everyone here is either his family (didn't you hear rumours about the baron's son having a connection to the mayor's daughter?) or works for him, but there could be dozens --or maybe even hundreds-- of people here, with more coming in to fill the new roles of extra guards and workers on the wall and such.

If you don't have any ideas of what you want to encounter I can throw something in once the others' scenes have progressed, it can bring everyone back together and move the story if those scenes did not get us where we need to go.

I figured the baron's home is inside a town (or very close to).
Yes please :)

Nope. Just the one village in this valley. The baron also told you there was no inn around here, just his home (maybe there is a reason I am mentioning this?).

Oh, so there's only the mayor's village and 2 barons causing it problems. Gotcha. In my mind both barons also had their own village.
Thanks for the clarification :)

I pictured it as a big, rich house for the baron(s) with stables, barns and hovels around. A few small houses where the household live. And now they are constructing a "wall" arounf the place.

Norbert will be looking for Roald. The idea of a drink with the men is appealing, but it will be a new experience for him. Really drunk people might be a bit much for him.

So I don't mind it going any way.

Pretty much. Feel free to use any of those elements in any of your descriptions.
@Airshark: You happy having to babysit Norbert while fending off free drinks? They might be more willing to talk to him if he is drinking with them, which might allow Roald to more easily avoid the drink himself. Let us know how you want to play this.

Sure. That could come in handy

@fossball: I think we are going to need a roll to see how he reacts to your questions.

I don't see anything in there to suggest a different Stat to CHA, so roll 2d6+1 (not that it makes much difference to you with all those +1s, but the Stat used is based on the fiction and affects the types of outcomes we can expect).

In this case I would think:

On a 6-: Something you said offends him and you have an incident, but you can still obliquely learn something from that reaction. The conversation is probably terminated.

On a 7-9: Something you said makes him (or someone else here) irritated and you have to calm things before you can ask more, but you can still obliquely learn something from that reaction, and can learn more if the conversation continues.

On a 10+: He sees that you meant no offence and answers your questions. You learn something from the conversation so far and can continue drinking and talking with this group if you want.

On a 12+: Something you said triggers him and he goes into detail about related problems in the area, you will learn a fair bit, and can continue to drink and talk with them, and possibly gain an ally.

Norbert will stay a bit longer to drink with the men, even though he does not feel very comfortable in that situation.

@vagueGM, on which side of this black gate is Albert at this point? Is he inside or outside?

Back gate,... Could be black though ?

@TheGenerator: Could be inside, could be outside, could be black. Whatever you want.

@Airshark: Does Norbert know that you should not be drinking? Would he know to try to slow you down? Does Albert?

I think Albert knows and Norbert doesn't.

Yeah, that is what I thought.

You did get a 7, so maybe having Norbert there can curb the extremes of your excesses?

I fear for the consequences if he doesn't succeed. Don't want to ruin the game for the others.
(End up hurt, in jail, both, worse,...)

You rolled a 7, which is a success, so any 'consequences' will be up to you.

Maybe it is not much more than your being drunk for the next bit?

Tell us what you want to explore, and we can try make it happen.
Let's keep the officials out of this. At worst you will make an enemy of the baron, and end up in his gaol, but that is not something that will matter to anyone else.

I will be offline for a few days. I'l write a often as possible.

Thanks, we will work around you.

Kinda depends on how much story it will be. I don't want to cut Roald's and Norbert's scene short.

Albert's current plan is to follow the baron and get confirmation of the girl's location. That's all. He will then go back and report to the others. That makes the most sense in the fiction at this point.
But if that's unlikely to happen, it may be best to get the others first. For the sake of playing the game together ;)

Edit:
I'm also happy to wait for their scene to be done before coming to get them. I suppose we could have some leeway on the exact times.

The more people in it, the more story it will have.
That's fine. We can keep this simple and then decide what to do afterwards.

suggestion:
0-6 Roald loses and punches the man in the face
7-9 the cup breaks and?
10+ Roald wins, finishes his drink and then Norbert can make him leave the room without a fight.

Might be. Do we want to wait and see if Norbert tries to defuse the situation? Maybe not since they will be offline for a few days [ref].
The other guy might be a bit pissed off about this, no matter what. on the 6- there will be a fight, but, unless you bring weapons into it, it will be a bar-brawl and not lethal.

On a 10+ you will be in control, and can make him back down, but no effort was made to make him 'happy', so --if you want-- he won't fight you, but will still be pissed off (and pissed). (maybe on a 12+ he will be impressed enough to like you?).

I am not sure about the 7-9 outcome. Maybe, as you suggest, the keg breaks and there is beer everywhere, this will piss him off, but also give you the opportunity to try to get out there before the fight.

I was thinking something in the line of a draw/ nothing happens too.

Nothing never happens.

I will roll, and depending on the outcome give Norbert a chance to react. If he's offline I don't mind waiting, if that's ok for you and Gen

No problem for me.

Hope that's ok for you vague, maybe you had something different in mind?

What happens next?

Norbert finds an excuse to make Roald leave. ?

There is internet in the toiletbuilding on the campsite! Norbert is pretty concerned about Roalds behaviour.

Is the scene with Roald and Norbert over? I'm not sure when to have Albert come back into the house.

Norbert can guide Roald out.

@Airshark: If Roald has done everything you want him to, maybe narrate how you finish up your interaction with the (drunk) guys who are still there.

If you want Norbert to take action to 'force' your character to leave, tell us exactly what you want, or where you draw the boundaries.

At least let us know what you are doing so we can react to your character. Your last post was about what the other (NPC) characters are doing, and we mostly care about the PCs.

@fossball: If we don't hear from you soon, we will assume Norbert also goes to sleep and skip to the morning.

Do we have our weapons in the room or did we have to leave them with the guards?

No one paid all that much attention to you --you were allowed past the wall without challenge-- and everyone was happy to have you around yesterday.

I would say you have your weapons.

I'm tempted to kick the door open myself and have it hit these guys in the face.
Does the door swing open that way?

It seems more fun if it does, so yes.

Hehe :) Let's see if the dice think differently.

Do I need to roll for overturning a bed? I, fossball do this as if it is a carpet, but Norbert might not be so buff :)

Nah. No fun failing at something like that.

There are more of them than you, maybe twice as many.

@Airshark, are you still working on getting the leadership skill for Roald? This might be a good situation for that ;)

@Airshark: Maybe a roll with CHA is in order?

What are you hoping to achieve with you threat? What would you most like to see if you get a good result, and what would you settle for on a partial success?

They sound insecure, so maybe some bullying will make them scatter.
This will mean of course we don't get any info.
Partial result. One or 2 will go away?

Sound appropriate. You can always hunt them down later and get your info.

Give us a roll.

Are there any men left standing at the door or are they all running away?

All running away. If you want to question them you will have to capture them. (or roll better. :)

Forgot about the maiming.
Self defence though ?

Maybe we need an Awareness roll, with WIS if you want to get a feel for more than just 'forewarning if they come back'. If all you want is for them not to get the jump on you, then your being alert is enough and no roll needed.

I'll give it a try.

https://gamersplane.com/forums/thread/26370/?p=1238396#p1238396

It was not mentioned specifically that this were his children.

The kids are mentioned here. So I do think they were at the table.

Whoops, sorry, it was a bit buried in the rest of it:

I had not noticed till I came back next time someone posted. I kept meaning to check (since your 'I'll give it a try.' could have meant you had added the roll) but have been out of range.

I thought the specific wording was "I know" so that the guy had to be at the dinner too, maybe as a servant.
If we were amongst the last people who've seen the girl. Maybe we should check on the others who were at the mayor's that night. Only thing I can think of at the moment.

If the guys cousin was attacked at the the other baron's by Norbert's dog, that could mean he is affiliated with that baron too. But why would he have easy access to this house...? (I'm sorry I can't remember which one is chlodomer and which is Childerbert.)

Was all of this staged to frame us?

Yep. He is clearly convinced he knows stuff. If someone told him, that would probably be enough to convince him, though.
It was just you, the mayor, his wife and two children and the servant that let you in.

But most of the town probably knows about that meeting.
That only indicates that his cousin had access over there, and he has access over here, and that they have access to each other.

This is a rural community, it is suspicious that they have such good reports of activities way over on the other side of the valley or in the village.

You did not recognise any of the 'attackers', so you did not see them around here last night. That does not mean much, you did not explore the house and the staff much, and you did not get to see much of the attackers (Albert would be able to pick some of them out from a crowd, though), but you don't think they necessarily work here.
Because the baron let them in?
I don't know about 'all this' but there is an element of frame going on.

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You have Decipher. Do you maybe want to roll to try to put things together with the facts your PC has? +INT or +WIS, with appropriate type of information based on which.

With Decipher, even on a 6- you won't fail to put something together, though it will be bad.
On a 7-9 you will get a suggestion of where to look next.
On a 10+ you will realise a concrete lead.
On a 12+ you will also realise something extra important.

You Character has been living this and may have picked up on or remember things the player has missed or forgotten... or the GM was not clear enough about.

Yep. He is clearly convinced he knows stuff. If someone told him, that would probably be enough to convince him, though.
It was just you, the mayor, his wife and two children and the servant that let you in.

But most of the town probably knows about that meeting.
That only indicates that his cousin had access over there, and he has access over here, and that they have access to each other.

This is a rural community, it is suspicious that they have such good reports of activities way over on the other side of the valley or in the village.

You did not recognise any of the 'attackers', so you did not see them around here last night. That does not mean much, you did not explore the house and the staff much, and you did not get to see much of the attackers (Albert would be able to pick some of them out from a crowd, though), but you don't think they necessarily work here.
Because the baron let them in?
I don't know about 'all this' but there is an element of frame going on.

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You have Decipher. Do you maybe want to roll to try to put things together with the facts your PC has? +INT or +WIS, with appropriate type of information based on which.

With Decipher, even on a 6- you won't fail to put something together, though it will be bad.
On a 7-9 you will get a suggestion of where to look next.
On a 10+ you will realise a concrete lead.
On a 12+ you will also realise something extra important.

You Character has been living this and may have picked up on or remember things the player has missed or forgotten... or the GM was not clear enough about.

Oh, yes.

I thought the decipher was an automatic skill. As in, the player has to figure it out and than the character deciphers it automatically

If the player figures it out then they don't need a roll, it is just truth.

Per the rules, skills mean you don't 'fail', even on a 6-

The fact that you have a skill also changes the opportunities you might get to try things at all. That helps encourage playing to ones strengths.

Who is 'Igor'?

The rest will come after.

My wife once got herself kidnapped in a larp to try to find out who was behind some other kidnappings. That does not seem the best course of action for Norbert :)

Oh dear!
Phew!
Yeah. That is a common Trope. :)

In Monster of the Week, the Mundane (character class) even has a move that includes "Whenever a monster captures you, you mark experience".
Maybe not by these guys. I don't think the actually know all that much. They smell more like ... patsies?

Nixon, I wrote Nixon! You should check your eyes!
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https://gamersplane.com/forums/thread/27358/?p=1302669#p1302669

Wow. humblest apologies. I don't know how I could have made such a mistake. I never misread thing! :)

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I will post an answer in a few hours when not on my phone.

Probably stating the obvious here... But no one expects you to answer within... X hours. (X not being a Roman numeral. It is, but not now. )

10 hours! Got it! Should I wait? :)

Fixed that for you Vagius ☺️

More like pretentius. :)

But one forgives you. :)

lol :)

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How old is this man with a broken knee? Cause if he's considerably younger than Albert, he's going to give him an earful right now.

I don't have an opinion. You can decide and go with whatever you would like.

Any roll needed for my grumpy old man rant? :)

Definitely. Presumably it will be +CHA to connect with him?

On a 7-9 You will have a chance to take the next step. What will that be? A roll for healing with its own risks? A detente or cease fire?
On a 10+ Both a cease fire and a chance to heal for more favour?
On a 12+ He believes you, and all of the above?
On a 6- We need more than just 'he does not accept you', things will escalate.

Unfortunately, I rolled a 6 :(

Norbert is going to have to break his other knee :(
He is going to become a wise guy.

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Do we think Roald is likely to object to our leaving? If not we can go ahead and pull out before @Airshark gets back on Monday [ref]

Difficult to say. Roald seems to be the guy who would try to give it one more go (talking us out of it) since it was the initial assignment from the mayor.

Yeah, cool. We can wait another day, no problem.

plot twist: Childerbert = Chlodomer

Plenty of those. :)
I am tempted to say... no cigar?

OK. How are we leaving? Are we sneaking out, or going boldly where all those men have gone just before?

Where are you thinking of going next? I might divert you with answers, but what is your intention?

Albert would opt to not be seen by the men outside. If Norbert mentions them, he will say so.

(As a player, I'm fine either way :) )

With Norbert's information about the tense situation outside, sneaking would be the best option.

It bothers me that sneaking out makes us look guilty though.

True.

On the other hand, so does getting into a fight.

Getting into a fight could make you look bloody guilty. (Did I leave out a comma?:)

It was a gate, in the garden, and it had a guard, but yes, once you are out of the house that did look like a possible back way out. The mass of men is mainly in the ... front yard.

Did you miss this question, Airshark? I think it still applies.

I think Roal has (or had) been exercising that Leadership in the handling of the prisoner. That may bolster his confidence and position if he wants to take a Leadership roll with the party.

Oh I see :)
Just want to make sure I'm not giving Albert too much of a strong opinion on things. It's a hard balance sometimes. I don't want to make Albert indecisive, cause that's rarely helpful. But I also want to give others a chance to take the lead.

Yeah, tricky balance.

Roald's Leadership is not about bossing the other party members around, and everyone seems to be on the same page about what they want to do right now, so there may not be much chance for exercising Leadership right now.

The general attitude is probably more relevant in the long run.

I missed it.

And also what Vague said. You shouldn't hold back with Albert on my behalf, if you have a good idea, go for it. Leadership can also be deciding which idea is best.

Or even letting others take the lead. :)

Norbert will look to Roald with wide eyes for direction.